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arturK


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Hello,

Would it be posible to extend Model assignent to inclde proceses and subprocesses ?

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Jick


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Hi arturK,

Do you mean Model in Requirement Diagram?

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arturK


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Hello Jick,

Yes, I meant Model element available on Requiremens Diagram. As we're taling about requirements, do you have in plans support for business rules ? We currently use requirements stereotyped with business rule, however it is a workaround.

Kind regards, Artur
 
Jick


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Hi arturK,

I will discuss this with our engineers.

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arturK


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Thank you, Jick. I look forward to hear from you.

Kind regards, Artur
 
Jick


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Hi Artur,

This is now supported. Please download the patch at:
http://files3.visual-paradigm.com/200707/Patch/sp2_20070704d/VP_Suite_Windows_3_0_sp2_20070704d.exe

Please overwrite your current installation.

Feel free to let me know if there are any questions.

Best regards,
Jick

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arturK


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Hi Jick,

Thank you for your quick response. I have just installed the patch and indeed I can currently use sub-processes to be assigned to Model. However I cannot use processes. Would it be a big problem to suport them ?

Regards, Artur
 
Jick


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Hi Artur,

I thought that by "Process" you meant the Pool in BPD. Didn't you mean Pool? We already supported Task and Sub-process, which are sometimes known as "Process".

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arturK


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Hi Jick,

The process, that I meant, is one of the attributes (named Process) of the Pool. The Pool, to me, is a "place" where the process is happening. So having a possibility to assign the process to the model could be in some cases more appropriate for "satisfy" relationship as it would emphasize what acivity will be responsible for carrying out the functionality represented by the requirement, not who does it.

What do you thik about this ?

Kind regards, Artur
 
Jick


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Hi arturK,

Actually, Process is a property. Currently we just support reference to model but not property level. Since one process can only be contained by one pool, you can simply point to the Pool instead of the Process.

Finally, we would like to know your purpose of doing this. Let say, is it for report generation?

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Jick

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arturK


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Hi Jick,

Thank you for you anwer. The purpose is simple "purity" of the approach. Speaking more preisely, we are using the concept of business requirements, connecting processes with elements of the IT architecture. One of these elements are processes being implemented in BPM system (i.e. webMethods, BizTalk). Thus we'd like to have posibility to connect Requirement to modele element representing the process that would be then finaly designed in separate tool.

Regards, Artur
 
Jick


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HI Artur,

We will support your need. Will contact you once the patch has been ready.

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Jick

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arturK


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Thank you, Jick !

Regards, Artur
 
Jick


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You are welcome!

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Jick


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Hi Artur,

Your request has been supported. Please download the patch at:
http://files3.visual-paradigm.com/200707/Patch/sp2_20070712u/VP_Suite_Windows_3_0_sp2_20070712u.exe

Please install it and overwrite the current installation. Feel free to let me know if there are any questions.

Best regards,
Jick

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