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2006/04/19 18:51
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Adam
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Is there a plan for adding automatic element numbering to BP-VA? This feature is very useful in documentation.
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2006/04/20 10:09
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Jick
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Hi Adam,
Do you mean to automatically append a number to the element name? Actually the naming of elements is already applying this approach. When you create a new Task, for example, you got 'Task'. When you create another Task, you got 'Task2', and so and so forth.
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Jick
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2006/04/20 17:59
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Adam
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2006/04/20 19:47
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Jick
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Hi Adam,
Thanks for your reply. The idea sounds interesting. I have passed your need to our development team for further research. I will keep you posted the progress of this issue. Thank you once again.
If there are any other suggestions, please feel free to let me know.
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Jick
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2006/05/31 02:25
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Hello,
this numberation would be very useful. What about the realisation?
Simon
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2006/06/01 08:52
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Jick
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Dear Simon,
Sorry but I do not quite understand your need. Were you suggesting another feature called 'realisation'? Could you provide me with more information on it? Thank you in advance!
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Jick
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2006/08/02 20:00
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Mark
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The problem is lack of identification system for BPVA objects. The Name field doesn’t cover the need to uniquely identify every figure for documentation purposes. The Name field is actually a Caption. I can imagine 3 fields instead: 1 - Name field as user defined identification, 2 - Caption field for visible caption and 3 - randomly generated ID field.
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2006/08/02 21:05
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Mark
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It’s supplement to the previous article …
There is an other reason why every project’s object must be uniquely identified. I need often to translate in Russian BPMN projects. If I use Name field as identifier so it sounds quite different in different languages. Besides that different char tables are used for different languages. In large projects I can predict chaos and disappointed documentation because no more objects could be identified.
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2006/08/03 13:58
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Jick
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Hi Mark,
Thank you for the explanation. I have forwarded your feedback to our development team. Once there is a response from them, I will post here.
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Jick
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2006/08/03 18:08
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Mark
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By the way, accordantly to OMG Final Adopted Specification from February 2006 dtc/06-02-01 identification attribute (Id) for all graphical objects is the first one on the list. There are 3 Common Graphical Object Attributes: Id, Categories and Documentation (page 33, table 9.1).
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2006/08/04 08:19
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Jick
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Hi Mark,
If we are going to support element numbering, do you have any suggestion how the number can be applied in the tool such as the diagram and documentation? What I concern is that, if numbering is just a textfield inside the model specification, why not use the documentation to record this information? I think there must have something special with the numbering...
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Jick
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2006/08/04 14:59
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Jick
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Hi Mark,
We will upgrade BP-VA to support the latest spececification. The upgrade will be available not more then 2 months from now.
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Jick
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2006/08/04 22:08
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Mark
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Hi Jick,
My suggestion is to add a write-protected field in specification for random-generated identifier. It can be more or less long number or mix of digests and characters. May be there are same common standards for this purposes …
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2006/10/25 11:08
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Jick
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Hi Mark,
I would like to announce that BP-VA 1.1 Service Pack 3 is released. This release supports identifier generation. I hope you will find this function useful to you. If there are any comments, please feel free to let us know.
Finally, you can download the latest release at:
http://www.visual-paradigm.com/download/download.jsp?product=bpva
Best regards,
Jick
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2007/11/15 06:03
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Ttyka
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Hi Jick,
I have the same problem of ID number.
Example: I have 3 activities, I called the activities 1. Planning, 2. Executing, and 3.Control.
When I generate a report I can not understand how it is sorted, I am sure it is not by ID because the events are displayed before than the activities despite the ID number. Other problem of the Id Number is that I only need identifiers in the activities not in the rest of symbols as start, end events, gateways,etc.
Please Helpppp ..
I was working for three months in the AS IS and To BE model and know I dont have time to redefine all the Id numbers. There is a way to sort by activity name? and also, There is a way to delete the events, pools and lanes in the html report and wiord report? 
Thanks.
Ttyka.
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