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2006/11/11 04:42
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Henk
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Ok for sure i am missing something here. But what I try to do is using both VP-UML and BP-VA.
The plan is to do BPMN and than move to UML so what I like to see is the BP-VA models in the model tree of VP-UML so I can use the power of drilling down.
Eg use the BPMN models as context diagrams and than introduce use cases to do the nitty gritty.
I was hoping that the files would be backwards compatible between the apps.
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2006/11/11 09:08
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Jick
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Hi Henk,
The project file is compatible between products. That means, you can open in VP-UML a project created in BP-VA. However, diagrams and models that are not supported by the running tool will not appear in the tool. Let me give an example, you can draw Sequence Diagram in VP-UML, but not in BP-VA. So, you can open in BP-VA a project saved in VP-UML that contains a Sequence Diagram, but you will not be able to access the Sequence Diagram.
By the way, VP-UML Enterprise Edition supports BPMN.
Have a nice weekend!
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Jick
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2006/12/11 06:01
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ianhb
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Hi Henk,
By the way, VP-UML Enterprise Edition supports BPMN.
Have a nice weekend!
Best regards,
Jick
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That's a steep premium for an extra notation! For those who just want to define requirements, and not get into code, couldn't there be an option to extend the modeler edition??
Ian
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2006/12/11 08:51
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Jick
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Hi ianhb,
You may consider our new product - Agilian.
Agilian lets you draw all diagrams - UML, Business Process modeling, data modeling, requirements. I guess this may suite your need. For details, please read:
http://www.visual-paradigm.com/product/ag/
Best regards,
Jick
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2006/12/11 16:54
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Henk
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Ok what is the catch?
I had a look at this product, but decided to get VP-UML (as I had that) and BP-VA.
Now it looks like this product will do the same as both previously.
Are the models compatible (eg i can open a AGILE model in VP-UML etc?)
Thanks.
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2006/12/11 17:07
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Jick
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Hi Henk,
The project files are compatible for different Visual Paradigm products. That means, you can open in VP-UML a project saved in Agilian.
For Agilian, you can think in a way that, it is equals to the Standard Edition of VP-UML, 'minus' those code engineering features, 'plus' diagram types that are not supported by the Standard Edition of VP-UML.
Best regards,
Jick
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2006/12/12 05:14
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Henk
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Moved the discussion to the Agilian section
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